Here is a recommended procedure for making ferric oxalate.
List of chemicals needed for making ferric oxalate.
1) Ferrous Ammonium Sulfate ( Ammonium Iron II Sulfate)
2) Hydrogen Peroxide 30 - 50%
3) Oxalic Acid (Dihydrate)
4) Potassium Ferricyanide
List of Lab ware recommended for making ferric oxalate.
1) 500 - 1000ml Flask
2) high quality scale, measure up to min. 200g and accurate to +/- .05g
3) 50ml Buret
4) Fume Mask
5) Eye protection
6) Strong pair of rubber gloves
It has been my experience that the final volume of 27% ferric oxalate made equals 1.75 times that of the amount in
grams of the ferrous ammonium sulfate used. Using this as a guide, adjust the amounts below to produce the desired
amounts. [For example: if you start with 50 grams of FAS, you should expect to get 87 ml of liquid ferric oxalate.]
This is posted here only as a guide. Please practice safe lab techniques.
If you don't know what those are, find out before you begin!
Step by Step Guide1) Weigh out 200 grams of Ferrous Ammonium Sulfate. With constant stirring, add it to 500ml of rather warm distilled water - 125F to 150F. I use a 1000ml flask to mix the solution in with an electric stirrer. After the ferrous ammonium sulfate (FAS) has completely dissolved, add to it 65g of Oxalic Acid. You will see a yellow precipitate form. Continue to carefully stir the solution for 5 minutes.2) Allow the solution to sit for at least an hour. You will notice that the yellow precipitate has settled to the bottom of the mixing vessel Carefully pour off the clear liquid. This is a strong acid and should be handled with care. You are trying to keep the yellow precipatate in the vessel.3) Add distilled water to the precipitate and allow it to settle again. You will repeat this step several times. I try to continue rinsing the precipitate until the rinse water has a pH of 6.0 or higher.4) Weigh out 55g Oxalic Acid and add it to 125ml water @ 125 F to 150 F. After the Acid has dissolved completely, add the solution to the yellow precipitate and stir for several minutes.5) Using a buret , carefully add the H2O2 to the precipitate and oxalic acid solution. This will be a very violent reaction which creates much heat. You will add approximately 80ml to reach final reaction. DO NOT ADD IT QUICKLY. You may add several milleliters at once. You must however wait a little while afterwards , to allow the solution to mix and cool. I would recommend that you start by adding it a ½ ml at a time with constant stirring until you feel very confident in your process. I use a cool water bath, 45F during this step to prevent the solution from becoming too hot.6) As the reaction reaches it conclusion, the addition of H2O2 will produce little effervescence. If the solution has been keep relatively cool, about 80F during the addition of the H2O2, it will appear a greenish brown color.7) You should begin testing for the presence of Ferrous ions left in solution. To do this, mix a small very dilute solution of Potassium Ferricyanide. Place a small sample of this solution into a 50ml beaker or other small vessel. Add a drop or two of the ferric oxalate solution to it. There should be a brown precipitate form. If a blue precipitate forms there are still ferrous ions in solution.8) To eliminate the ferrous ions, add small amounts of oxalic acid to the solution ; a ½ gram amount at a time. Allow some time for this to get into solution and retest for the ferrous ions with the potassium ferricyanide and a few drops of you ferric solution. There will be a color shift as you get closer to eliminating the ferrous ions; the solution will get greener with less of a yellow brown quality.9) You can add a few drops of H2O2 to the solution until a slight effervescence returns. It is believed in some circles that the addition of the H2O2 at this stage, will convert excess oxalic acid to CO2.10) If you do not have a positive test for ferrous ion, it is time to let the solution set for a while (This may be several hours or overnight) and then test the SpGr of your ferric. The SpGr is affected by all the components that you have used, so it is possible to have a slight range in SpGr. The reason to determine the SpGr of your solution is to allow you to help judge future batches. I produce a solution that has a SpGr of 1.190.11) You are done when you get a brown result using the Potassium Ferricyanide test.12) If you plan to use the ferric oxalate for other iron processes such as Kallitype, you may want to make further alteration to this formula. This may include the addition of ferric nitrate. For a more complete look at this step, refer to Dick Stevens Making Kallitype – A Definitive Guide. |
There has been some conversation among users and makers of ferric oxalate as to purity and lasting qualities of various ferric oxalates. Some might consider this method as one that produces a solution that is ill defined. That may be true, but it works fine and is economical to produce.
I have had some contact with someone that knows quite a bit more chemistry
than I, and here is what he has to say about this method.
| Eric,
What you obtain is an aqueous solution of ferric oxalate in which it´s impossible to specify its exact composition, and to say:
xx grs. of feric oxalate
due to the numerous reactions that are produced in the oxidizing process oxidation, in acidic solution, of the ferrous ión provided as oxalato. The imprecisions proceed of: a) the H2O2provided as solution (the concentration of H2O2 varies with the time) b) the oxalic acid is oxidized by the H2O,2 producing CO2 and H2O (that quantity of oxálic is oxidized during the reaction ?)
c) the reaction produces Fe(OH)3that catalíticaly decomposes
d) the ión (C2O4 )(2-)is a (chelant) complexing ión, that is incorporate with [Fe(C2O44 )3](3-) to produce complex polymers. all foregoing do that you must to introduce in the reaction some quantities of solution of H2O2 and of oxalic acid superior to those which are derived of the basic reaction: 2FeC2O4 + 3H2C2O4 + 3H2O2 = Fe2(C2O4 )3 + 6H2O + 4CO2 In conclusion: you can not specify exactly the composition of the obtained solution. As consequence of the generalized use of the procedure, considering the good Results obtained by you in its use, and take into account what is exposed previously it can be concluded that: small variations in the content of the solution they do not affect the quality of the results. Regards, Vicente Vizcay Castro |
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